The Votes Are In

[DanaEmployee#45]

After last Sundays important meetings with the unions the votes are in for Auburn Hills and Rochester Michigan facilities.

Auburn Hills Michigan

Yes 102

No 2


Rochester Michigan

Yes 36

No  0



This will be updated as the rest of the votes are counted.
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[mad hungarian]

[subassemblythorold]

maybe you should all get together and give your union dues to charity instead of the UAW coffers . they might get the hint , on second thought they might not, seems the UAW doesn't give a f- - k about anyone in the supply parts industry as we all well know. Even the CAW idiot Buzz Hargrove is the same way.
The only way the supply industry will get any kind of support is when the head of the UAW or CAW once worked in our part of the industry (which i don't see Hell freezing over any time soon)

[mad hungarian]

[subassemblythorold]

Ever since that cr-p of the signing bonus came about workers grabbed it with both hands,In thorold it was $750 signing bonus and that was all there was and they took it and no doubt it was spent in one day

So for thorold $750.00 over 3 years which is 6240 hours (based on a 40 hour week) it works out to 12 cents an hour raise.
If that had at least been a raise put into the base rate it would have given a person  18 cents an hour on saturday and 24 cents an hour on sunday and the same for working 12 hour shifts,the first 3 hours is 18 cents and the last hour is 24 cents.At least if it was in the base rate the $750 bucks might have gotten you another 4 or 5 hundred more over 3 years.

Anyway no one thinks anymore just take the money and run.   And yes the big 3 are all that matters to the union boys.We don't even exist in their world.Were like the the third world peons (Do your F--ing job and shut the F- -k up)

[cmueller]

I think they counted our votes today anyone know the results?

[DanaEmployee#45]

[Pyro]

Local Dana workers veto pact
Companywide results of vote on plan pending
BY SEAN F. DRISCOLL
sdriscol@marion.gannett.com

Marion's Dana workers have voted against a plan hatched as part of bankruptcy proceedings that would eliminate some local jobs but keep the plant open until 2011.

Members of United Steelworkers Local 7-113, the union that represents 330 Marion Dana workers, rejected the deal by a 56 percent margin. Local President Willie Campbell said about 290 members voted, or about 88 percent.


"This plant was scheduled for shutdown, and we were able to save the plant," an angry Campbell said Friday night. "This makes no sense to me. It seems they don't want to work."

Voting results weren't available late Friday for other plants, which are represented by USW and United Auto Workers. A federal bankruptcy court judge must review the agreement; a hearing is scheduled for Wednesday on the matter.

Campbell said regardless of how other plants vote, Marion's rejection of the proposal could spell trouble.

"It's going to have an impact," he said. "If the rest of the plants turn it down, (the judge) is going to void our contracts. These people will be left with no benefits, and we'll be shut down. It's a bad situation. We tried to make the best of a bad situation, and it's not the end result we wanted.

"It just doesn't look good on the local plant," he continued. "How's the company going to be responsive to any requests or try to help us when we don't help ourselves?"

The contract was hammered out after Dana asked U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Burton Lifland to void its collective bargaining agreements. Dana plants across the country, including Marion's, voted to strike if that happened.

The plan announced earlier this month calls for a proposed loss of manufacturing jobs that would cut the Marion work force to about 170 employees, or half its current level. The agreements allow the heavy manufacturing work to move as soon as Nov. 1, but Campbell has said he thought it could take more than a year to make the change.

A special voluntary buyout program was proposed for the Marion plant to help reduce the work force. Employees would need at least one year of seniority and be union members to be eligible. If they participate, they would receive a one-time payment equal to 52 weeks of pay at the base rate.

Although buyouts would be offered under the plan, Dana officials would still be able to lay off employees as the manufacturing work is moved.

Now, though, the whole plan is in doubt. According to an article in the Toledo Blade, if even one plant rejects the proposal, it can't be considered accepted no matter what the other votes show.

If the union rejects the plan, it's unclear what the bankruptcy judge will do with the proposal before him.

Dana employee Frank Chester declined to say how he voted, but he did say he was surprised at the outcome.

"From past contracts we've had, a lot of them should have been turned down in the first place, but they passed," he said. "With this being a bankruptcy and pretty much a take-it-or-leave-it situation, I figured people would have taken it. But, evidently, they still feel strongly enough that they felt it was wrong to take it."

Chester said many people at the plant were worried Friday about what would happen if Marion rejected the contract and other plants accepted it.

"It's going to be interesting as far as what's going to happen and how the judge is going to view it," he said. "I'm just happy to still have a job for now."

Originally published July 21, 2007
Marion Chronicle-Tribune

[subassemblythorold]

I see some people got the guts to stand pat.Mr. Campbell bankruptcy or not ,if the members dont like whats there then get the hell back to the job your assigned to do and get a better deal and stop the bit-hing.Dana has lots of money even though their in bankruptcy. And what about those that have to loose their jobs.Everyone works or or everyone goe's, There IS life after Dana.
I don't see them shutting down the plant because of a no vote.

[hayesdanaman]

Wish our union members had the ball to do that the last 3 of our contracts preceding the plant closure.Everyone takes the FIRST damn offer on the table and we know the corporationd always have a second offer incase the first is rejected.
 Anyone who thinks their doing the Company a favor by taking their offer is sadly mistaken. Dana will screw you if need be in the future faster than you can spit! And we all know that through out Dana weather it's Canada the U.K. Australia or the U.S.  
 And when they emerge from bankruptcy they will make money hand over fist , This is all designed to make Dana more than they did before,so get as much as you can get now!
  Remember the more you have now,means when Dana starts taking away later on it will not hurt as much as when you got little and they take much!

[mad hungarian]

[hayesdanaman]

I remember when i was younger in 1972 and green.There was already talk of shutting down one of the three plants here.Well in 1974 we voted no and had a 6 1/2 week strike.Complete with 600 on the picket line one day and the cops were there and all the newspaper reporters.there were trucks burned and bottles and rocks thrown at the railroad engine.
  First and only strike I was ever in ,loved every minute of it. And if i lost my job I didn't care there were other places to work...
  7 or 8 years later they closed the Hayes Forge.35 years after i started the Frame Plant went by by.That leaves the Drive Train.That has to be over 80 now or more.And one day that also will close..
 I think only once I voted for a contract,to gain 180 jobs and as it turned out there was only 60 jobs.I voted strike ever since...

[Grant87]

[subassemblythorold]

Some great points there,good thing it was turned down..god if the union reps are only reading a hand out where are the guys who came up with the deal?That tells me the Bargaining committee just sat at the table kept their mouths shut and let Dana Dictate everything.
Sometimes Unions are not worth their weight in Sh-t

[Pyro]